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Post by Evenstar on Dec 25, 2003 16:20:55 GMT
I've always wondered, what exactly do the elves do in Valinor?? Do we even know? And can you get there if you're not an elf (excluding if they invite you, like Bilbo)? Sorry, I'm always so curious...  |
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Post by MirkwoodArcher on Dec 26, 2003 21:13:44 GMT
They seem to do what they did at home. In the case of elves, singing, hunting, making beautiful things.
Gimli got there uninvited (unless Legolas had the power to invite him). My view is that Legolas and Gimli turned up and didn't ask anyone's permission.
You didn't ask about this, but it's worth mentioning. Tolkien said that mortals who went there did not become immortal, they would eventually die. It was called the Undying Lands because immortals lived there, not because the place itself conferred immortality. However, the lands were under the direct protection of the Valar and life there would be peaceful and happy and dep healing could be had for wounds such as Frodo's.
Hope that's of some use.
Nen
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Post by Evenstar on Dec 26, 2003 22:29:46 GMT
That answers my question. I always thought that if you went there, you became immortal.  Thanks! |
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Post by River Daughter on Dec 26, 2003 23:03:28 GMT
Thats what I thought and when my family asked me I was like...um....yeah....uhh...sure.  |
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Post by Brannwen on Jan 19, 2004 15:34:25 GMT
Really? How interesting! Thank you for sharing that Nen!  |
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Post by Shieldmaiden on Jan 20, 2004 14:24:12 GMT
Ummm I was wondering, where do you go if you die in Middle-Earth?
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Post by Mirkgirl on Jan 20, 2004 14:37:44 GMT
If you're an elf you go to the Halls of Mandos... there in some cases you get new body and come back... in others you just dwell there... for example Feanor is never to be back
If you're a human, no one knows what happens to you... that's the Gift of Iluvatar, the death. Men (race) leave this world and no one knows what happens to them.
If you're a hobbit... well as no one really knows what hobbits are it's hard... the version Tolkien gave and which I support as well, is that the hobbits are a subspecies of men, i.e. they have the same fate.
If you're a dwarf... no one knows for sure here either... their own legends say that Aule (their creator) gathers them in a special section in the Halls of Mandos and when the world ends they will join him in rebuilding it... another version is that they go back to the stone from which they are made...
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Post by River Daughter on Jan 20, 2004 17:41:17 GMT
Thanks for that Mirkgirl |
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Post by Shieldmaiden on Jan 20, 2004 22:59:25 GMT
So umm I know this sounds really silly but I can't remember where the Halls of Mandos are.
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Post by Mirkgirl on Jan 21, 2004 10:46:27 GMT
lol no it doesn't sound silly... Tolkien wrote so many places and people that it's hard to keep up
The Halls of Mandos are on the western shores of Valinor... Mandos is one of the Valar... actually his real name is Namo, but he is more often called Mandos after his halls.
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