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Post by Elessar on Jan 13, 2004 1:46:32 GMT
I think the prevailing theme is redemption, which is exemplified in Gollum, and how even though he had been ravaged by the Ring, there was still slim hope of his being saved. This I think is perfectly shown in the section where Gollum finds Frodo and Sam sleeping:
"Then he came back, and slowly putting out a trembling hand, very cautiously he touched Frodo's knee - but almost the touch was a caress. For a fleeting moment, could one of the sleepers have seen him, they would have thought that they beheld an old weary hobbit, shruken by the years that had carried him far beyond his time, beyond friends and kin, and the fields and streams of youth, an old starved pitiable thing."
I also love how Gandalf came with three eagles to pick up Frodo and Sam at Mount Doom - in the movie at least. I don't remember how many came in the book. It is a great statement of Gandalf's hopes for Gollum's redemption I think.
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Post by *~*Háthawyn*~* on Jan 13, 2004 2:49:03 GMT
I voted 'other' meaning many of them! lol Not very intelligent, I know, but I really couldn't decide between some of them... I think friendship is really great in Lotr, and also, here I have found friendship beyond words, and in a way, it was because of Lotr. Also, Lotr shows the greatness of sacrificing yourself for others, and this is really beutiful. The other ones I was also tempted for voting 'honor' because I think it is such a good quality, which can be seen in many Lotr characters.
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Post by Radagast the Brown on Jan 13, 2004 7:28:12 GMT
I'd have to say that I think the prevailing theme is courage. There were those people like Denethor who had one peek at Sauron's host of orcs and such, and just lose all hope and/or will to fight.
But then all of the heros of the movie, fought against all these impossible odds, and ended winning a completely impossible war. The whole ordeal of even trying to get the ring close to Mordor at all was insane and suicidal, and yet, Sam and Frodo kept on it. That's courage, methinks.
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Post by Arwen Evenstar on Jan 13, 2004 7:47:50 GMT
I voted Mercy and Redemption, too. Elessar, the quote you put up is one of my favorites. I love that there was always hope for Gollum, and they showed him such mercy and pity. Reading through the books, and watching the movies, I find myself pitying Gollum so much, even when I know his fate, I still want him to be redeemed. That is one of my favorite themes in the books and movies. And in the end, their mercy and pity towards Gollum definitely paid off, showing how it is the best way to treat people. The one complaint I had after seeing RotK was that it didn't show Gollum as still having some good left in him. I was really hoping to see something like that scene from the book Elessar quoted, but that exact scene would have been hard to bring to the screen. I was still hoping for something similar, but they didn't have it. Maybe the EE... Anyways, that's what I think about it
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Post by Mirkgirl on Jan 13, 2004 13:38:18 GMT
I really can't vote... as I think that all these (and many more) are equally important... that's the great thing about the book... one can find whatever one needs in it... do I make any sense?
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Post by MirkwoodArcher on Jan 13, 2004 16:37:07 GMT
You make perfect sense and I agree with you. I couldn't vote either.
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Post by Arwen Evenstar on Jan 13, 2004 20:48:13 GMT
It took me a while before I could make up my mind
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Post by Elessar on Jan 13, 2004 22:09:10 GMT
I had to really think about it before I picked a theme too. A lot of it came down to which one struck a particularly strong chord with me, which the idea of redemption did, more so than the others. Though they are all strong factors in the story.
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Post by River Daughter on Jan 14, 2004 17:51:32 GMT
I can't vote....it's too hard!
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Post by Evenstar on Jan 19, 2004 7:28:48 GMT
I voted courage. I don't know why, but I always feel so sad, when I think about all the heroes being courageous and putting themselves before others and perhaps dying. I just like the way that is shown, it affects me deeply.
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Post by Radagast the Brown on Jan 19, 2004 7:34:20 GMT
Right on, Evenstar! As they say, great minds think alike......
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Post by Evenstar on Jan 19, 2004 7:35:15 GMT
Yes, they sure do!
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Post by Brannwen on Jan 19, 2004 15:31:30 GMT
I voted honor because that is one of the virtues I most admire. It is also the virtue that goes with Boromir's redemption. It took me a really long time though because I also wanted to vote for courage, mercy and redemption, and good vs. evil. Come to think of it now, I think I should have voted for good vs. evil....I don't know.
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Nenya
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Post by Nenya on Jan 19, 2004 19:33:07 GMT
There are many themes in LOTR so it was hard to vote, but I think that there is also a lot of sacrifice in it. High goals often demand sacrifices, because there is no other way. I read once that the greatest sacrifice is to give up something that you love. It happened in the books too.
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Shieldmaiden
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Post by Shieldmaiden on Jan 20, 2004 14:19:17 GMT
They all were important themes in the books. I had to go with other becaues there really wasn't one prevailing theme.
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