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Post by River Daughter on Jan 9, 2004 23:07:18 GMT
Ok this is my question....um exactly how did the orcs come into being, apparently they were elves but.....confusion.....
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Post by Elessar on Jan 9, 2004 23:27:06 GMT
If I'm remembering right, in the beginning of the First Age (I just checked a site, which said it was before the First Age began, so I'm not sure about that ), the Elves woke by the waters of Cuivienen, the Waters of Awakening. When Melkor discovered this, he began kidnapping them and holding them prisoner in his stronghold of Utumno... they were then tortured and currupted so deeply that they became the beginnings of the Orcs.
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Post by River Daughter on Jan 10, 2004 23:26:15 GMT
Thankies ......that's so sad
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Post by Eloise on Jan 11, 2004 10:58:42 GMT
I think it was before the first age, didn't the first age start with the first rising of the sun and moon?
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Post by Mirkgirl on Jan 11, 2004 16:18:56 GMT
yup... it was during the years of the trees... well before the first age
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Post by *~*Háthawyn*~* on Jan 11, 2004 17:14:49 GMT
Yes, I'm almost sure it was before the First age too
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Post by MirkwoodArcher on Jan 11, 2004 17:16:33 GMT
I'm certain it was, becuse Morgoth sent orcs into battle against Beleriand in the First Age.
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Post by Elessar on Jan 11, 2004 19:26:54 GMT
Yeah, I figured I had got that wrong after I said it... Should have heard me last night in the chat, getting East mixed up with West!
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Post by *~*Háthawyn*~* on Jan 11, 2004 19:30:15 GMT
That must've been funny!
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Post by River Daughter on Jan 12, 2004 18:04:24 GMT
LMAO!!! I only just figured out that I put 'Ocrs' instead of 'Orcs'!!! Whoops, never mind!!
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Post by Naurmaethor on Jan 21, 2004 4:50:04 GMT
Yes, and after the beginnings of orcs were created they bread them with men and other races...that made different orcs and such. Freaky if you ask me...
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