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Post by Elessar on Nov 15, 2003 2:23:09 GMT
If you're not familiar with it, it was produced by the BBC in 1981. It's thirteen hours long, and left very few things out... but unfortunately Tom isn't in this one either. It stars Ian Holm as Frodo, Michael Hordern as Gandalf, and Robert Stephens as Aragorn. I know that some of you guys are fans of it too... so here's a thread about it!  Any pros/cons that you see in it? So, to start it off... Personally, I think Ian Holm's Frodo is the highlight of the production. Elijah Wood is great as Frodo, but I like hearing a more mature voice for the character. And Robert Stephen's Aragorn is amazing... confident and dignified. Saruman was also extremely well done! As for cons, there are a few, but no production is perfect. Let's see... the only one I can think of off the bat is the singer who proclaims the downfall of Sauron... but its interlaced with some great dialogue between Eowyn and Faramir, two awesome characters in the drama. So, what are your thoughts?  |
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Post by Simbelmyne on Nov 15, 2003 9:01:57 GMT
I love the music at the very end. It's beautiful, and I also love the title music.
Oh yeah, and my dad spotted a kind of mistake. (RoTK spoilers here, beware!)
Because the Barrow Downs were left out, when Merry kills the Witch-King, there's no explanation of where he got his sword. OK, so that's kind of minor, but my dad keeps going on about it.
Anywho, all for now,
Simbelmyne
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Post by Elessar on Nov 16, 2003 23:16:15 GMT
I agree, the music is just haunting. Especially "Bilbo's Last Song" and the song Sam sings in Cirith Ungol. Powerful stuff!
That's a good point about Merry's sword... I suppose that the films are going to have the same problem! I like to think that the Tom/Old Forest/Barrow-downs sequence still happened, it just wasn't recorded for some reason.
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Post by Simbelmyne on Nov 17, 2003 16:51:53 GMT
Yeah, but Strider gave them the swords in the film, so that's less of a loose end  |
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Post by Brannwen on Nov 22, 2003 22:44:19 GMT
I got the tapes for my b-day. I thought they were very good |
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Post by Arwen Evenstar on Nov 27, 2003 6:43:32 GMT
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Post by Elessar on Nov 27, 2003 17:51:25 GMT
Awesome! Hope you have fun listening to it. |
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Post by Elessar on Dec 30, 2003 4:29:24 GMT
I found this on someone's signature on another forum... someone has laced music and a few seconds of dialogue from the movies with the Mount Doom sequence of the BBC play. It's very powerful! www.themightysquid.com/mountdoomclimax.mp3Oh and Arwen, did you get to listen to the play after you picked it up from the library? |
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Post by Evenstar on Dec 30, 2003 4:45:49 GMT
Ok, sorry this is kind of off-topic, (I've never heard the tapes) but did Sim say when MERRY kills the Witch-King...?  I thought Eowyn killed him! (My brother claimed it was in the book!) |
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Post by Elessar on Dec 30, 2003 4:57:17 GMT
Well, I've heard it debated at a bunch of places... some people think that Eowyn alone killed him, or Merry alone with his strike behind the Witch-king's knee. Personally I think it was a combination of the two of them... Merry's sword was the one that cleaved "the undead flesh, breaking the spell that knit his unseen sinews to his will," and Eowyn's blow sort of finished him off. But if Eowyn had attacked the Witch-king without Merry first stabbing him with his sword of Westernesse, I don't think she would have done any damage. So I think it was a collaborative effort. I'm very possibly wrong though, as it has been awhile since I've read ROTK. |
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Post by Evenstar on Dec 30, 2003 5:05:03 GMT
Ah, I see. So now I'm finally learning my brother is very vauge.  I wondered if Merry doing that in the movie was in the book as well. But I don't think that Merry could have killed him, because no man can kill him to begin with. So I suppose it was a team effort kind of thing. I wish Tolkien was alive so we could ask him these sorts of things.  Another off topic question: Who said the quote in your sig? It's really bugging me, I can't think of who it is! |
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Post by Elessar on Dec 30, 2003 5:12:19 GMT
It's part of the message that Galadriel sends to Aragorn. Here's the whole thing: Where now are the Dúnedain, Elessar, Elessar? Why do thy kinsfolk wander afar? Near is the hour when the Lost should come forth, And the Grey Company ride form the North, But dark is the path appointed to thee: The Dead watch the road that leads to the Sea. I love it! I've been hoping it would make it into the movies somehow. Maybe in the EE... |
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Post by Evenstar on Dec 30, 2003 5:20:19 GMT
Oh, I love it too!! But, it nearly made me cry!!  I can just picture the rangers all riding together with Aragorn in the lead...sorry, I'm a little over sensitive today, bad day. Yes, I hope it's in the EE too. I heard a lot of Galadriel's lines were cut, and are in the EE. *crosses fingesr* |
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Post by Elessar on Dec 30, 2003 5:32:53 GMT
Oh, I love it too!! But, it nearly made me cry!! I can just picture the rangers all riding together with Aragorn in the lead...sorry, I'm a little over sensitive today, bad day. No need to be sorry! It's very powerful writing. |
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Post by Evenstar on Dec 30, 2003 5:40:28 GMT
Yes, it's very powerful. I wish I could write poems like that.
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I wondered if Merry doing that in the movie was in the book as well. But I don't think that Merry could have killed him, because no man can kill him to begin with. So I suppose it was a team effort kind of thing. I wish Tolkien was alive so we could ask him these sorts of things.